Necessary reading, if you haven’t already.
Necessary reading, if you haven’t already.
As part of a recent study about military interrogations techniques, I spoke to many human intelligence (HUMINT) collectors. Through an online survey, 143 active-duty reserve, and retired military interrogators were asked them how they performed their jobs. These men and women, who served in Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iraq, and Afghanistan, were also asked to rate the effectiveness of a variety of interrogation techniques.
With the exception of one member of the sample, these interrogators uniformly agreed that torture and other harsh methods were worth little when trying to gather accurate human intelligence. The majority of study participants stated a strong dislike of violence in interrogations and asserted time and again that if the direct questioning of a detainee failed, building rapport was the most effective way to collect information from a human subject. As one study participant wrote, “Torture is for amateurs.”"
Also from the article:
As a retired Naval Criminal Investigative Service special agent with 23 years of experience, I performed numerous rapport-based interrogations on terrorist suspects in the United States, the prison at Guantánamo Bay and Afghanistan. I can attest to success of traditional law-enforcement-type interrogations.
MMA Trainer Ed Clay Gets Waterboarded (by GamenessFightCo)
The party gets started around 3 minutes in to the video.
You’ve got to see the last 2 minutes of the video: Clay talks about things that have been waking me up in the middle of the night for decades.
For proponents of waterboarding who were not convinced it is indeed torture by this video:
- Here is Christopher Hitchens being waterboarded.
- Here is far-right Conservative and proponent of torture, Eric Mancow, being waterboarded and admitting it’s torture.
- Here is Kaj Larsen from Current being waterboarded. (This one is especially nasty.)
- Here is journalist Sheila Casey, who thinks he can withstand more than 15 seconds of being waterboarded.
- Here are the guys of Mythbusters being waterboarded.
- Here is former CIA agent Bob Baer discussing torture, claiming Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who was waterboarded 183 times is “almost brain dead.”
- Here former FBI Interrogator Jack Cloonan talks about the techniques he used while working in the elite Bin Laden unit.
- Here Jack Cloonan explains that regular interrogation tactics work well on even the worst terrorists, that there’s no such thing as a “ticking timebomb” scenario, and that waterboarding has done much more harm than good.
- Here, in an IQ2US debate, Jack Cloonan argues against the notion that “tough interrogation of terror suspects is necessary”
- Here General David Petraeus denounces the use of torture on Fox News
- Here intelligence officials admit that torture does not work
- Here Cenk Uygur explains the CIA report that concludes torture did not stop or prevent any attacks or “produce the desired results”
- Here Cenky Uygur explains how and why the U.S. employed torture
- Here Richard Armitage denounces torture in an interview with Al Jazeera
- Here journalist Henri Alleg discusses being waterboarded by the French Army
- Here Dick Cheney tells Matt Lauer it’s not okay for Americans to be waterboarded
How many more do you need?
LTMC: well done, MohandasGandhi. This list is a bit more comprehensive than the one I have on hand.
One small detail of the torture of terror suspect Ali al-Marri in US custody contains a nugget that might cast light on the still bizarre circumstances of the three Gitmo “suicides”, revealed by the National Magazine Award winning report by Scott Horton. For in that detail, we learn of a new torture technique devised at Gitmo, in a must-read piece by Almerindo Ojeda:
It would have gone unnoticed were it not for a recent article by Tony Bartelme in Charleston’s Post and Courier. [But] on one occasion, interrogators decided to stuff Mr. al-Marri’s mouth with cloth and cover his mouth with heavy duct tape - a technique of controlled suffocation that Mr. al-Marri’s lawyer, Andrew Savage, has called dryboarding. Dryboarding is not just a criminal practice; it is a potentially lethal procedure. As he was being dryboarded, Mr. al-Marri tried to relieve the pain caused by the duct tape by loosening the tape with his lips. He succeeded. Taking note of this, the interrogators taped his mouth again, but this time more tightly. At this point, Mr. al-Marri began to choke to death. Panicking, the interrogators acted quickly and removed the tape, thus managing, narrowly, to keep Mr. al-Marri alive (Memorandum, p. 5).
This account of the events is apparently undisputed. Ms. Joanna Baltes, who appeared on behalf of the government in the sentencing of Mr. al-Marri, seems to have acknowledged that this incident took place. She also recognized that this procedure was inconsistent with the Army Field Manual (Sentencing, pp. 259, 261). There are no signs, however, that anyone has been held accountable for carrying it out.
William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!
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